ElsgenElizabeth ?

Female - Aft 1622


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  1. 1.  ElsgenElizabeth ? died after 1622.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Grace ?
    • Name: Hannah ?

    ElsgenElizabeth married Thomas ROGERS about 1606 in England. Thomas (son of Thomas Matthew ROGERS and ? MCMURDO) was born in 1586/7; died in Feb 1621. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Thomas ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1609.
    2. 3. William ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1612 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England; was christened on 7 Feb 1612/13 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England; died on 13 Jul 1664 in Huntington, Suffolk, New York, USA.
    3. 4. Lois ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born after 1613.
    4. 5. James ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1615.
    5. 6. Grietgen ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point
    6. 7. Lysbeth ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point

    Family/Spouse: Roger PORTER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Family/Spouse: William ROGERS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Thomas ROGERS Descendancy chart to this point (1.ElsgenElizabeth1) was born in 1609.

  2. 3.  William ROGERS Descendancy chart to this point (1.ElsgenElizabeth1) was born about 1612 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England; was christened on 7 Feb 1612/13 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England; died on 13 Jul 1664 in Huntington, Suffolk, New York, USA.

    Notes:

    Name:
    "Connecticut Ancestry": William Rogers was born at Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire,England about 1612, and was baptized there on 7 February 1612/13, the son of one Thomas Rogers, whose identity has not been resolved by earlier researchers. He died at Huntington, Suffolk County, Long Island, New York "probably rather suddenly" on 13 July 1664.

    it is important to note that William's father was not the Thomas Rogers who was among the passengers of the MAYFLOWER. One author describes the situation as follows:

    "Thomas Rogers of Stratford-on-Avon, father of William Rogers was not Thomas Rogers of the 'Mayflower'. The Rogers family was numerous and prominent in Stratford-on-Avon. Thomas rogers, Bailiff and alderman, who was buried February 20 1610/11, was of this family. This Thomas had at least 16 children, one becoming mother of the John Harvard of New England. The handsome Rogers House in Stratford-on-Avon which the alderman Thomas Rogers built in 1596 is believed to still be standing."

    Some authors have called him a member of the followers of the Rev. Richard Denton who settled in succession Wethersfield and Stamford, Connecticut, and Hempstead,on Long Island, but this appears to be an overstatement. William Rogers did in fact own property in Wethersfield by 1645, but he is not listed among the first settlers of that town who came from Watertown in 1635 and 1636. Although it is reasonable to presume that he spent some earlier time in Massachusetts, he is not mentioned in Savage's "Genealogical Dictionary" at all, and apparently did not leave any records elsewhere in new England prior to the land ownership in Wethersfield. Seversmith said he appeared "supposedly" in Boston in 1638, but gave no source for the statement. Seversmith also call him a "cousin" of Thomas Wickes/Wilkes of Wethersfield and Huntington.

    He married Anna or Anne hall at Stratford-On-Avon on 2 February 1630/31. She survived her husband and died 22 November 1669 and 21 February 1669/70, the dates of he will and its probate. The suggestion by Miner and Jacobus that she was possibly Anne Sherman, daughter of Edmund Sherman of Dedham, England and Wethersfield, is NOT mentioned at all by Seversmith, and appears to have been superseded by Seversmith's more detailed discoveries. In particular, Seversmith noticed in the parish registers that Anne was probably identical with that Anne Hall, illegitimate daughter of Grace Hll, who was baptized at Sratford-on-Avon on 16 February 1612/13, less than one week after the baptism there of William Rogers. Anne's mother appears to have been Grace, daughter of robert "hawle", who was baptized at Stratford-on-Avon on 18 june 1583.

    William Rogers was in Southampton, Long Island at an early time, but the exact sequence of his residences is not clear. The Southampton historian Mr. Howell gave the following account:

    "William Rogers is mentioned as a resident of Southampton from 1642, so, at least, March 1645-6. In 1645 the Gen. Court of Connecticut mad him a grant of land. In 1649 he is made freeman. he appears to have had a home in Hempstead, for a few years previous to 1649. From 1649 to 1655 we find him an inhabitant of Southampton, and after this he disappears altogether...Subsequent to 1655, Obadiah Rogers is mentioned as residing on the homestead that William had occupied...Now it is probable that William gave the Southampton homestead to his son Obadiah about 1655, and with his wife and younger children removed to Huntington where he might have resided several years."

    We do know that on 30 July 1656, Jonas Wood, William Rogers and Thomas Wilkes purchased the major portion of what would become the Huntington lands from Asharoken Montinnicok, Sachem, and the other native Americans "for and in consideration of 2 coates, fore shertes, seven quarts of licker and aleven ounces of powther." This agrees very well with Mr. Howell's estimate of the time William Rogers moved to Huntington.

    William Rogers did not leave a will (at least not one that has survived), but the will of Anne Rogers of Huntington mentioned her son Obadiah and his eldest son (not identified by name), her sons John, Noah and Samuel, and her daughters mary and hannah. Miner and Jacobus found that "Although Jonathan was not named in the will, he was called brother by Noah in a conveyance and was certainly son of William, though possibly by a former wife." Seversmith presumed that Jonathan was left out because of a family disagreement, but a more plausible argument might be that Jonathan had already received his portion. At any rate, if Anne was indeed the person who married William Rogers in England in 1630, the Jonathan (baptized in 1636 and still living in 1669) must have been her son. samuel is felt by most writers to have been not her own child but the husband of her daughter Mary, probably Samuel Titus.

    Hebert F. Seversmith, "Colonial Families of Long Island, New York and Connecticut", manuscript notebook #6 of 11, microfilm copy used at the connecticut State Library, 780. Seversmith's treatment is by far the most complete one available, and is used extensively herein. Although the citations are at a minimum, he was a careful researcher and his work is highly regarded.

    William married Anna HALL on 2 February 1630/31 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England. Anna was born in England; died between 22 Nov 1669 and 21 February 1669/70. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Anna ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was christened on 7 Mar 1631/32 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England.
    2. 9. Obadiah ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was christened on 29 Sep 1633 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England; died on 1689 or 1690.
    3. 10. Jonathan ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1636 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England; was christened on 4 Sep 1636 in Stratford-On-Avon, Warwickshire, England; died after 4 Apr 1708 in Huntington, Suffolk, New York, USA.
    4. 11. John ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1640; died in 1676 in Branford, Connecticut.
    5. 12. Noah ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point died on 8 Oct 1725 in Branford, Connecticut.
    6. 13. Mary ROGERS  Descendancy chart to this point

  3. 4.  Lois ROGERS Descendancy chart to this point (1.ElsgenElizabeth1) was born after 1613.

    Notes:

    Not sure if Lois belongs to this family. Until further research is done, I wil keep her here.

    Family/Spouse: Joseph ALDEN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 5.  James ROGERS Descendancy chart to this point (1.ElsgenElizabeth1) was born in 1615.

    Notes:

    Came to America in the Ship "Increase" in 1635 when he was 20 yrs. of age, and anchored at Salem or Boston, Mass. He m. & Ultimately settled in Newport, R.I., & left issue.


  5. 6.  Grietgen ROGERS Descendancy chart to this point (1.ElsgenElizabeth1)

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Also Known As: Margaret Rogers


  6. 7.  Lysbeth ROGERS Descendancy chart to this point (1.ElsgenElizabeth1)

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Also Known As: Elizabeth Rogers

    Notes:

    Excerpt from Mayflower Increasing:" Elizabeth was living 1622, Leiden, Holland; poss. came to Pymouth abt 1630 with brother John as as Bradford implies, married and had children. Stratten: 287-8 suggests she could be the Elizabeth, wf of Samuel Eddy. Elizabeth Eddy died 24 May 1689, at the end of her 82nd year (plymouth), thus her birth date of abt. 1606 fits the time frame of the bairth of the Rogers children. Samuel is included in a 1662 list of "first born children" to reeive grants of land. All those who received land were either in Plymouth pre 1627 or married someone who was (the only exception was William Pontus who was a member of the Leiden group). Since it is known that Samuel Eddy arrieved in 1630 in the ship "Handmaid", the fact that he is included indicates it was in right of his wife Elizabaeth, the daughter of an "Old Comer" family. Bradford's statement that the children who came over had "many" children fits the Eddy family whom the records show had many children (born before Bradford's writings), some of whom they had to "put out" because of their "many wants". Since Bradford states that the rest of the Rogers children came over, one could assume they came toether and, as it is known that brother John came to Plymouth c1630, is it possibel that, along with Samuel Eddy, John and his sisters Elizabeth & Margaret were among the sixty passengers of the Handmaid?"